Ah, drama. Sorry for our long absence from posting, but we’ve been busy doing other things that are less dramatic than this site requires. However, Uldum, that most wayward of backwater realms, has really stirred up the Hornet’s nest. Now it’s long been true that self-styled “High-End” raiding guilds are competitive with one another; some directly, some indirectly. So what happens when the furthest-progressed raiding guild on Uldum-Alliance, Poor Play, manages to bring the Iron Fist of Justice to Illidan? Well, the other progressed guilds on Uldum, especially the Horde guilds, start sniping at each other. It begins, as it always does, with an innocent recruitment post from Gentlemen’s Club, the most progressed Horde guild on the server:
Sounds innocent, no? Well, it’s not long before the trolls start in:
“Oh crap! Time for any guild not as far progressed as GC to hold onto there members! Here comes the Nova-like poaching of the ”gearing up” guilds. Somethings never change. “
And then we get the tired, weak defenses:
Meh, it’s not like we’re posting recruitment threads on the forums of other guilds lol. With recruitment as hard as it is, we’re just trying to get the word out to those skilled players who may have slid through the cracks =).
Some arbitrary, player-specific sniping by low-level alts:
Q u o t e: Things that make you go Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm……………
Here’s Sirloine for you.
Last 30 Days: 37% of raids
Last 60 Days: 37% of raids
Last 90 Days: 41% of raids
Lifetime (02/12/07 – 10/07/07): 45% of raids
Quite a stelar raiding track record….maybe they should take you off our hands.
And then we had back to some quality complaining about poaching by anonymous cowards:
42. Re: LF healing Priest/Resto Shaman | 10/23/2007 04:51:42 AM PDT
Why isnt this thread just in SB’s recruitment thread,since we all know they have the only other attuned priests on the server…what cracks skilled players fell through ,no one outside of GC knows…..
Things devolve much further below the break.
seejay shares with us the following bit of drama:
Calculator from the guild Progeny on server Drenden ninjad the T4 chest off Magtheridon. He then promptly transferred servers to Dalaran, became Panzor and joined the well-known guild Gaia.The guild leader from Progeny pops over to Dalaran to warn Gaia, as Panzor is currently raiding in Gruul’s with the guild.
Responses range from:
- Progeny are idiots for running with free-for-all loot on!
- We were in the middle of a raid, why are you bugging us to warn us about a ninja in our guild??
- Progeny is a bunch of idiots, so who cares if someone ninja’d from them?
- Leave your drama Drenden out of Dalaran!
- We knew he was going to ninja the item and we encouraged it!
- We’re not kicking him from our guild, we know him in real life.
- Don’t punish all members of Gaia for what one jerk did!
- Gaia’s full of ninja’s and jerks anyway, let them keep him.
- It’s just one item / bunch of pixels / a video game, get over it!
- Various expletives
Overall, people seem to miss the point of “HAY! NINJA! WARNING WILL ROBINSON!” even when Panzor shows up and admits to the theft.
you must think you are a feline creature in real life and make sure everyone else is aware that you are one as well. (often engage in conversations using words like meow and rawr and just go *scratch scratch kitty is here* on people rather than saying “hello”.
Finally, in the ‘the more things change, the more they stay the same’ department, Sterno shares this excellent YTMND of a kid crying over having to go to bed just as he gets an instance group together. Kids crying over games always seems to be popular. There’s some great quotes once the parents get involved about the kid just damaging himself.
Thanks to an anonymous contributor:
Members of Volition, a guild on Bleeding Hollow (that transferred from The Forgotten Coast) got some nifty karma after constantly claiming they would be the #1 guild on the server and that everyone else would be in awe of them….
This thread that was here (sadly deleted) set it up:
Well ladies and gentelmen, last night, Volition members Johnnluc and Doanald (AKA THEDONNY, Track # 7, Paper trail records) found themselves with their pants down, literally. for some time, i pretended to be a girl amongst the Volition ranks as a 70 mage. in the process of my joining the guild, Doanald revealed secrets that should never even be spoken over the internet, and Johnnluc was recorded/ screenshotted saying he wishes to get me intoxicated to do sexual acts to me, and MUCH MUCH MORE from both members of volition. while the footage and recordings are being put together since there is over 150 SS and an hour of vent recordings, i thought i would go ahead and let everyone in on why alliance trade/nagrand general was spammed, and IRC invaded. while i did alot of the work, many other people were involved in the process, you will all be thanked in the big post with all the footage. The main post should be ready in a few days, i hope you enjoy it.
So for those who dont know, i pretended to be a girl in the guild “volition”. i recieved an epic my first day in the guild in kara, got a free 2v2 team paid for by the well known, Doanald, and he also gave me consumables for raids. Johnluc, who didnt even seem like that bad of a guy, just got horney and talked to the wrong character at the wrong time. Johnluc told me he was good with his tongue and wanted to have repeated sexual acts with me over ventrilo and ingame chat. John found out while he was cyberingwith me that i was a girl when i yelled, “can i bust my $%$ in your eye!” It sucks i had to rush this post out, but it worked out all the same. Thanks go out to Smogen, for hooking me up in the first place. also i would like to thank Bodynok, Spuure, Teez, stylux, Lotho, Xaen, and all the guys who knew and were in on it. i hope you enjoy this and thanks most of all to Doanald (AKA paper trail/fail records, track #7, thedonny) and Johnnluc for making all this possible.
Written quotes: “BuT i have worked and co-produced for snoopdog and franchise boys last cd”
Voice quotes: “I’ll give you my address and you can fuck my gun.”
“Why are you so pussy?”
Bravado much, methinks?
Written quote: “i guess i’d have to find out get you drunk so you’d let me cum in your mouth too”
Voice quote: “Come on really, can we just grow up?”
We eagerly await the full compliment of screenshots.
Thanks to Epilogue for highlighting this sterling bit of vein-popping anger.
The post has been taken down now, but it was originally on http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=75494119
3 posts containing this have all been taken down:
I am so sick of hearing about “omg I can’t find a group” in every thread I read…
YOU GUYS WHAT THE @##*.
WAKE UP! You’re in one of the top giulds on this server! AND you’re all thinking inside the box about the whole @##*ing thing.
I GET ASKED BY ILTERENDI (I.E. #1 GUILD ON THIS SERVER TO DO END GAME CONTENT) ALLLLLLL THE @##*ING TIME FOR GROUPS. OMG NO ONE IN THEIR GUILD CRIES ABOUT NOT FINDING GROUPS THOUGH BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY SACRIFICE A LARGER GUILD FOR TIGHTER END GAME CONTENT AND SOMETIMES THAT MEANS FINDING GROUPS…
OMG OUTSIDE THE GUILD OMGOMGOGMOGGMOGOM
WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAAAAAN!?!?@?!@?!@?
IT means I know HOW TO PLAY and I DO IT WELL AND SO DO YOU. AND ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL GUILDS APPARENTLY YOU CAN’T FIND GROUPS IN.
YOU MEAN IN A TEAM GAME AYALIN THAT OMG PEOPEL MIGHT JUST OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG NOT BE ABLE TO FIND GROUPS OCCAISIONALLY? EVEN
TWO NIGHTS IN A ROW?!!?! OMG!? NO GROUPS FOR TWO NIGHTS OMG! LIFE IS OVER!
BE LUCKY YOU GET TO GO FARM AND FISH AND MAKE MONEY FOR YOUR MOUNT THEN! WTF?? NO ONE IS GOIGN TO THINK YOU’RE UBER IF YOU’RE NOT TRYIGN TO COMPLETE QUESTS, GET GEARED, AND STRUT YOUR *!%#.
I’M A COCKY **%@%, I KNOW HOW TO PLAY MAGE, AND I’LL TELL ANYONE I’M THE *!%# AT IT EVEN IF I’M NOT BECAUSE HEY OBVIOUSLY IT’S WORKED SINCE LEVEL 30 FOR ME TO GET GROUPS.
STFU AND RAID! PLAY MORE, YOU CAN GROUP ALL DAY, THEN SOLO GRIND YOUR MOTES, GO FISH, GO GET EPIX, GO QUEST, GO MAKE MONEY FOR THE REPAIRS FOR OUR REAL 25MAN RAIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO HELP SOMEONE ELSE FOR A CHANGE!
I FOUND ALL MY GROUPS BECAUSE I WAS HELPING NO ONE EVER HELPED ME. YOU CAN GET YOUR *!%# DONE BY HELPING OTHERS, WAKE UP! SOME CRYING ABOUT IT AND GO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
WHY DO I LOG AND GET 20 TELLS ABOUT DOING GROUPS?
PEOPLE DON’T EVEN LIKE ME, I SIMPLY KNOW HOW TO PLAY AND I HELPED SOMEONE OUT ONCE OR TWICE. THAT’S IT. OK? I TOLD YOU ALL THE KEY TO SUCCESS.
I see so many of you crying in these posts who never help a @##*ing SOUL. So go help everyone else, then TRUST ME WTF it WILL come back to you. JESUS PEOPLE. SERIOUSLY. BY COMPLAINING IT’S LIKE YOU’RE TELLING EVERYONE YOU’RE TOO SELFISH TO JUST GO HELP IN TEAMS, AND WAIT TO REAP WHAT YOU SOW… WHICH HAS BEEN MY GOD $%#@ED LIFE FOR TWO YEARS.. ARE WE ALL PLAYING THE SAME @##*ING GAME?
YOU’RE THE ADULT GUILD ON THE SERVER, STOP ACTING LIKE A BUNCH OF WHINEY BABIES ABOUT FINDING GROUPS, IF YOU CAN’T FIND THEM, JOIN DARK DESTINY, I PROMISE THEY HAVE GROUPS 24/7 AND THEY GO TO KARAZHAN.
YOU CAN NOT EXPECT ME TO SIT HERE,SAINLY EVERY DAY WHILE YOU ALL CONSTANTLY CRY ABOUT THIS. IT’S JUST ..
OMFG STFU I CAN’T EVEN TAKE IT ANYMORE I WORK SO @##*ING HARD FOR YOU ALL THEN FOR NOTHING BUT CRYING IN POSTS! @##* I SHOULD JUST START GKICKING THE WHINERS, AND ONLY RECRUIT PEOPLE WHO CAN STFU AND PLAY. OR MAKE THIS THREAD FOR EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO BE AGAINST CRYERS, AND WHINERS, AND WANT TO **%@% AT THEM UNTIL THEY BECOME – DO-ER’S -
GOD I COULD BE IN A GUILD LIKE DEATH AND TAXES WITH MY @##*ING EXPERIENCE AND DEDICATION AND OPEN SCHEDULE BUT INSTEAD NO, I WANT TO BE HERE WITH YOU @##*ERS, I LIKE YOU GUYS AND I WANT TO KEEP RAIDING WITH THE SAME GOD $%##ED PEOPLE ALWAYS. SO THE @##* WHAT IF I WANT TO KEEP PLAYING WITH A BUNCH OF PEOPEL WHO I THINK ARE @##*ING NICE AND COOL AND *!%#??
ALSO OMFG!!!!!!!!!!! I SEE YOU ALL IN GROUPS ALL THE TIME, THEN POSTING I GUESS IN YOUR FREE TIME WHERE YOU AREN’T IN GROUPS HUH? WTF. WE USED TO BE A TEAM OF NON-WHINEY BABIES, WHAT HAPPENED? YOU’RE AWESOME PLAYERS, IF YOU COULD JUST STOP THINKING ABOUT OMFG I’M ON KARAZHAN LIST 1, 2, 3, I DIDN’T FIND ANY GROUPS ZOMG.
AND PLAY THE GAME AND REALIZE THAT 25MANS ARE JUST AROUND THE CORNER, AND THIS TRANISTITIONAL TIME FOR THE LAST THREE MONTHS YOU DO NOT HAVE TO FREAK OUT ABOUT…….. OMG!
Thanks to Zank, we (proudly?) present the first post in our drama contest. Stay tuned for these on a daily basis, with voting information to go up after the last post.
Though guilds come and go, and usually the latter leaves a wake of drama and sleepless nights for its members, the break up of Tough Customers in September was an especially dramatic one, as raid leader Jadarr “ninjaed” the guild from the married guild co-leaders Milker and Lorry.
The guild, in the shining moment of its first MC clear, was suddenly and abruptly stolen. The night after their first Ragnaros kill Jadarr left the guild on grounds that the leaders did nothing to help the guild, handled everything poorly, etc. Trouble was, he took the core of the guild raiders with him.
Like most drama handled in the guild, it was all private, never really leaking onto the server forums, with the drama contained entirely in guild forums. Though all of the original posts are gone, and the vent conversations unrecorded, the after thoughts of the forum going members can be found at: http://www.redemption.guilds-portal.com/forums/
This isn’t the first time Tough Customers has had humorous noteworthy drama, in fact the first was probably the luci ninja which ended up on google video at:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4759780313565426066&q=tough customers luci&hl=en
Some choice quotes: “If u fuckers believed that we wouldnt go anywhere then why the fuck did u toy with us all that fuckin time.“
“Lol my dear, the day jadarr left he posted some bullshit post under bitching explaining why he left
Under that post he said suuf about real life, that he wasnt gonna be on much and that he might even quit. If im wrong then correct me. If not then i would call that the biggext lie. Somehow he has time for MC, ZG, and ONY still”
Chitsu, from Six Feet Deep on Dragonmaw, takes the levelling of his guild just a tad too seriously.
All members of the guild are expected to level to 70 as fast as humanly possible.
If you want to “experience the content” please do so after you have reached 70, or on another character.
Here is how we will be leveling:
You will log in to the game, and look for an officer. One of the officers will assign you to a 5 man group. The 5 man group will run the appropriate instance level over and over again until someone has to leave, at which point, an officer will assign a replacement.
No ‘grinding solo’
No “Checking out the new races”
If you are online, you will be expected to participate in one of the groups running 5 man instances.
The only exceptions to this will be if there are not enough people for you to group with, etc. There will be PLENTY of off-hours downtime to goof off if you wish, but during prime-time, I swear to Thrall I will /gkick your ass if you are screwing around with stupid #%*! instead of participating in the leveling grind.
He gets roundly mocked, as well deserved, but never seems to admit that he could possibly be the one at fault.
Especially funny are his comments about fairness being the reason behind this nazi-levelling regime: “Having the officers assign groups is the best way to assure balance, and the best way to avoid little cliques forming and causing people to be left out,” and that “SFD members are treated more like prized athletes than kids. It’s my job to provide clear direction and focus so that our team is all on the same page working toward the same goal. It’s called leadership.”
“Sorry for just leaving but immature ignorant people do not impress me. If I din’t know about something, I wouldn’t take the cowards way out and mock it and talk down on it. “
This guy seems to think you better agree with him that paintball is not only a sport, but an EXTREME sport. Don’t disagree or he’ll /gquit.
“next time take the time to lissen you may learn something.”
In a game with 7 millon plus players, drama of some type is inevitable, and usually constant. Hell, in any gathering of two or more people, drama of some type is inevitable, and usually constant. Even in this constant stream, however, there are some dramas that rise above to become known throughout the WoWsphere. They become… Classic WoW Drama.
The creators of this site come from a little backwater called Uldum. Our 15 minutes of fame as a server came from the discovery of the duping bug, in the long long ago. We don’t have too much home-grown drama, apart from one Elitemaiden (whom we will get to at a later date.) But sometimes sitting in our little backwater, we hear the murmur of something. Something big. We go trawling the forums, checking the boards. And then we see it, a little gem.We’ve just come across Classic WoW Drama(tm).
Of course, there is plenty of drama, always new drama. That’s why we made this site. But a few pieces rise above to become something beyond mere squabbling.
One of the most infamous of these incidents involves a little Druid with a big appetite for loot on the Tichondrius server, the leader of the guild RoaR. Her name? Retrodruid.
Retrodruid decided that the first Sulfuras in the guild (back when Sulfuras was a big deal) would be hers, by virtue of her self-proclaimed work for the guild. Some of her guildies were less than pleased when she expressed this sentiment in guild chat. Of course, that was only chat at the time.
Until the Eye of Sulfuras dropped, and she took it, just like she said she would.
/gquits ensue. WoW boards on Tichondrius and across the land light up. RoaR’s ventrilo server is invaded. And Retrodruid gives an explanation that she hadn’t trusted her guildmates after an incident over a year earlier – and cries sweet, sweet tears. In true WoW drama tradition, screenshots ensue, showing Retrodruid to be a somewhat homely woman probably in her thirties. Unkind remarks are made comparing her to Jabba the Hut, Shamu, and other such rotund favourites. Sadly, most of the original threads have died in the move to the new official forums. The best part is when comments from Retro emerge indicating she doesn’t actually have much of a life, and may be taking teh WoW a -tad- too seriously.
Screenshots of the original guild chat are here. I especially love the brownnosing. The whole saga even inspired a “rap” here. The best part of it all, a ventrilo conversation (complete with tears!) here. “WoW is my life!”